Just got my mits on the preview download... looks promising... anything that lets me work with a blog AND del.icio.us AND flickr at the same time could be amazing...
Screenshots at http://www.decrem.com/bart/2005/10/screenshots/
Once hooked up to delicious, you can search bookmarks using the usual google search box in the top right, at the same time as searching your history... sweet
I dont understand the del.icio.us and flickr fad.
de.icio.us is just a bunch of social bookmarks, and will most likely turn to spam evenually.
flickr is just a "photo blog". You upload pictures, people can comment on them, and most of the time people use it WITH their blog. So its like, they are blogging about the same thing twice on two different sites.
When I find a site I like or need, I bookmark it. When I have a pic I want to share I dump it in a folder on my site, or toss it in my blog.
I dont get it.
i think the major benefit of flikr is (correct me if i'm wrong) it provides a much wider viewing audience for your photos (if you want that) and, more importantly, it provides free photo hosting with commenting/sharing etc capabilities for those who dont already have hosting solutions. Which kicks people like me in the nuts but at the same time it is a bright idea and a useful service.
flickr is great. I can email pictures direct to flickr and have them appear on my site, I can build a category and tag based collection of photos which are stored in a lace backed up and much more secure than my own system. Also, you can become part of any number of groups that interest you, for example I am in a group for photos of the town where I live, another of where I come from. It's more like an ongoing commentary of the world in general than a photo sharing site.
Where did I keep up with events when the London Bombs went off? flickr, the sheer number of users, and way the images are organised makes it perfect for this type of thing too.
Part of the attraction with Flickr is that it's just so well done, other sites do photohosting but Flickr is something else. You've got the community thing going on but there are so many useful details, it's also a real ego boost when people who you don't know mark your photos as favourites.
People are much more likely to stumble across your photos with the various streams of photos, the ability to tag photos and the 'interestingness' feature. You get communities forming round keywords and thats the real kick, it's fun because it's a bunch of people who want to look at your photos and you want to look at theirs. Check out their explore page, but you'll only appreciate the attention to detail if you get an account and start using it, I started using it properly about a month ago and it's kickstarted me back into want to take photos, which is great :).
I am at school, so there is NO chance that I can download it now. I'll get is as soon as I get home, and then I will let you know the moment I have it.
Thanks heaps for this. I am not sure why I did not get an email also? I have been on the list for some time.
I had no idea that Chris Messina was working on Flock.
(I think he left CivicSpace, and this COULD explain that. I could have the wrong person though.)
I've heard that a lot of people aren't too impressive with Flock. It is essentially Firefox with a few extensions - certainly a new browser isn't needed to put in these features.
I guess it's meant to be a swiss army knife thingy for aghrhem, Web 2.0, or some such nonsense.
Main problem is that no existing FF plugins will work with it.... heavy man
PS. Are there some whisper bugs still on here... can't seem to change my post above to a whisper?
3stripe: I have it. Thanks for hosting it. You can get rid of it now (if you wish).
It really is just firefox. I am certain of this. When I first saw it, it looked nice. Wasn't too worried about similarites with other browsers as they all pretty much look the same.
Bt I have Font issues with FireFox, but no other browser. This issue is ALSO present in Flock.
Anyway, I like the interface, I like the slightly new features, but I don't think it will replace Camino or Safari on my comp.
It looks nice.
One set of users I think could really find Flock useful... not power users... but your average Joe.
For instance, if I set up some of the other staff here at my work with Flock on their Macs, and linked it to our Blog and new Flickr and Delicious accounts, everyone could have the chance to blog away, and share [work-related!] favourites. At the moment Wordpress and Delicious in particular are probably quite hard to get your head round for a lot of people - with Flock it's all there in the same friendly UI
I'm sticking with Firefox. Flock, like lech said, is merely another front-end for Gecko engine, and as I'm not that big into this whole 'Web 2.0' thing either, I see no reason to use a browser which, for me, would differ only in its UI.
I'm not totally tearing it apart, it's nice that they're using the gecko engine as a base, but it just looks like a FF 1.5 hack quick and simple (well, probably not simple). However, I don't see anything here that wont already be available in FF 1.5. They're even fronting existing FF extensions like they're some kind of special product only for flock, that's a bit goofy if you ask me.
I can't see why there's a big deal about this. I really was expecting something different. Man, hype was just craszy for this. It looks nice and all but I'd rather, as people have said already, seen this as a theme + extension set.
I will say the Blog Editor part spits out some ugly ass coding...
This is just a test of the new <a target="_blank" href="http://www.flock.com/">Flock Browser</a> which is basically Firefox with some un-needed bells and whistles, like this Blog Editor for starters...<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><br /></span><p>Urgh, I have grown to loathe WYSIWYG editors, and this one pretty much sucks ass.<br /></p><p>I dunno, I'm not so sure we need *another* Mozilla based browser, but what do I know<br /></p>
I for one, think the del.icio.us integration awesome. The blogging is stupid though. They say a lot can change though because it's in early development.
I've played with it more. Only just setting up a blog on my site the intergration doesn't really effect me yet.
I'd still like to see it more as an extension and theme pack though. I'm not a coder but it doesn't look like they've done much beyond the normal firefox.
Played with it a bit... the feature list is nice, but the implementation is sucky.
Take the delicious integration as an example. They didn't so much integrate it as they did a wholesale replacement of the firefox bookmarks functionality. So all the other things Firefox did right - from bookmark keywords, to bookmarking sets of tabs - gone. Not to mention no current way to mark bookmarks private such as bookmarklets, bookmarks to local private development servers, or anything else you'd consider 'sensitive' and wouldn't want to publish to the world.
Theres other nitpicky things I saw that I'm sure will come with time (like lack of flexibility in their blogging UI). As a browser they did a pretty good job of not screwing things up so its got a good core and I do look forward to what they do with the feedback they're getting, because the idea is a worthy one.
i've been using it for a while and while it definitely has some things that need to be sorted out i really like it -- i absolutely love the delicious integration in particular.
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People are much more likely to stumble across your photos with the various streams of photos, the ability to tag photos and the 'interestingness' feature. You get communities forming round keywords and thats the real kick, it's fun because it's a bunch of people who want to look at your photos and you want to look at theirs. Check out their explore page, but you'll only appreciate the attention to detail if you get an account and start using it, I started using it properly about a month ago and it's kickstarted me back into want to take photos, which is great :).
This is just a test of the new <a target="_blank" href="http://www.flock.com/">Flock Browser</a> which is basically Firefox with some un-needed bells and whistles, like this Blog Editor for starters...<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><br /></span><p>Urgh, I have grown to loathe WYSIWYG editors, and this one pretty much sucks ass.<br /></p><p>I dunno, I'm not so sure we need *another* Mozilla based browser, but what do I know<br /></p>I dont need a "social" browser like that, I need an anti-social browser
I'd still like to see it more as an extension and theme pack though. I'm not a coder but it doesn't look like they've done much beyond the normal firefox.
Played with it a bit... the feature list is nice, but the implementation is sucky.
Take the delicious integration as an example. They didn't so much integrate it as they did a wholesale replacement of the firefox bookmarks functionality. So all the other things Firefox did right - from bookmark keywords, to bookmarking sets of tabs - gone. Not to mention no current way to mark bookmarks private such as bookmarklets, bookmarks to local private development servers, or anything else you'd consider 'sensitive' and wouldn't want to publish to the world.
Theres other nitpicky things I saw that I'm sure will come with time (like lack of flexibility in their blogging UI). As a browser they did a pretty good job of not screwing things up so its got a good core and I do look forward to what they do with the feedback they're getting, because the idea is a worthy one.