It is quite confusing when even the discussions of both Garden and Vanilla 2 are grouped together. Seeing as how Vanilla 2 is an app inside the Garden Framework, these should be marketed separately as the Garden Framework and the Vanilla 2 app based on the Garden Framework.

In addition, in the documentation is mentioned the fact that Garden itself is an application (it resides in the app folder). So some distinction needs to be made (as far as file structure) as to what are core files for Garden vs an application based on those core files. If Garden is the application inside the applications folder then what are the files inside the library folder, wouldn't those be Garden's core files?

I think you have a great idea here with the community approach to a php framework (built in discussions/ACL/User interface...) but the real value is for a developer like me to easily create an app that can tap into that power and therefore greatly speed up development time and increase application integration.