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Can Vanilla Team Approve Auto-Update Addon?

aeryaery Gtricks Forum in 2.2 :) ✭✭✭
edited March 2012 in Questions
This discussion is related to the Auto Upgrade addon.

This is one of the most basic feature that I would like vanilla to have. It simplifies to many things.

Now, since its available from a another developer (thanks dude, we really need this), I would request vanilla team to approve it so others can use with blind-eye and trust.

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phreakJone

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  • ToddTodd Chief Product Officer Vanilla Staff

    Do you have 100% confidence that this plugin won't screw up your installation?

  • it is beta is has barely got anything in it yet.

    grep is your friend.

  • UnderDogUnderDog Moderator

    My opinion : First we try it out and then, after a while, we can approve it.

    Just because it's unapproved at the moment, it still can be used. Just let the daredevils use it first.

  • AdrianAdrian Marketing Jedi Vanilla Staff

    My two cents. I am ok with it not being approved, but i want ppl to use it and help make it better. I know the function right now is not complex, but it makes upgrading a bit easier. I have used this on 5 installs without issue and I know upgrading is one area that many people were looking for a solution. I had put this project on hold hoping an official plugin would be here already, but maybe the community can help me finally make this the plugin we all wanted.

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  • aeryaery Gtricks Forum in 2.2 :) ✭✭✭

    So,

    Can the daredevils try this and let us know there experience?

    PS: @x00 Can the plugins pass db or passwords information to thirdparty? Can they be malicious and vulnerable for vanilla?

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  • AdrianAdrian Marketing Jedi Vanilla Staff

    thanks @UnderDog, no worries. Love any help to make it better as well :)

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  • AdrianAdrian Marketing Jedi Vanilla Staff

    Please upgrade to latest version. Not sure if there is a bug in Vanilla not notifying of version change.

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  • UnderDogUnderDog Moderator

    adriansonline said: Please upgrade to latest version. Not sure if there is a bug in Vanilla not notifying of version change.

    It's worse, I enabled so many plugins that I'm getting something not worth mentioning ;-) I'll figure it out (daredevil mode) and let you know in this thread.

  • AdrianAdrian Marketing Jedi Vanilla Staff
    edited March 2012

    @underdog Are you saying the upgrade made things worse? It's working on this end...

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  • UnderDogUnderDog Moderator

    adriansonline said: Are you saying the upgrade made things worse?

    No, those things I PM-ed to you are some improvements I suggest. Also I recommend improving the backup script. The plugin is OK though :-)

  • @adriansonline have you had any feed back recently? have you implemented any of Underdog's suggestions? I would love to use this plugin as my last upgrade attempt was a disaster and I lack the confidence to attempt it again.

  • I'm not capable of doing a manual backup so i need something like this but i see all comments are very old, Does this mean it's all ok? or it's been discontinued?

  • phreakphreak VanillaSkins.com - #1 Themeshop for Vanilla ✭✭✭
    edited June 2013

    @DenisS: Not capable means you don't have SSH Access or the database tables or you simply don't know ho it's done. If you have first, it can be done very easy.

    Would be interesting to have this bundled with "Version Check" from peregrine. Wish we had the "Donate to Paypal"-Button directly next to the Add-On, with number (not amount) of payments done. Would make things more visible to those who want to support specific developments.

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  • peregrineperegrine MVP
    edited June 2013

    @DenisS said: I'm not capable of doing a manual backup so i need something like this but i see all comments are very old, Does this mean it's all ok? or it's been discontinued?

    If your site doesn't allow this for some bizarre reason. You need to get a decent host, if you don't know how, then its a bigger mistake on your part.

    @Phreak - buttons pressed to make perceived ease of donating is not going to make people who want things free from the sweat of others, step up to the plate and donate. The greater vanilla community is not a very generous in terms of financial donations (with the exception of about 10 people :). The funny thing about donations is the people who donated the most to me are the biggest contributors on this board. That says something. Also how many people (who haven't donated to this forum or wiki or through addons or assistance) have actually donated to the vanilla team. Not many I assume.

    Making it easier for people to donate via buttons, most people can't even fathom or care about reaction buttons and it doesn't cost them a cent.

    Monetary Donations will be appreciated if you use my plugins. Thanks in Advance.
    As a waiter gets a tip for a good meal, tips for successful solutions appreciated as well. Peregrine

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  • vrijvlindervrijvlinder Jester MVP

    @peregrine said:

    If your site doesn't allow this for some bizarre reason. You need to get a decent host, if you >don't know how, then its a bigger mistake on your part.

    ah have mercy p, DenisS is 66 and it has to be hard for an old dog to learn new tricks no? ;)

    yea @phreak, verlassen das Geld und Fragen nach der! :)

  • phreakphreak VanillaSkins.com - #1 Themeshop for Vanilla ✭✭✭
    edited June 2013

    @peregrine: I've mentioned this more than once that the generousity can only come from a community that feels not opressed by the core team. So it's not a "community fault", it's an Open Source policy fault why developers have such a weak return of love and bucks.

    @vrijvlinder: Could you please write what you would like to tell me in english, in german it just doesn't make any sense. ;)

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  • vrijvlindervrijvlinder Jester MVP

    no wonder they did not leave a tip when I told that to a restaurant patron in my waitressing days when they were leaving without tipping and asked for directions to the bus station! I thought geld was a universal word for money...at least in yiddish :)

    verlassen das Geld und Fragen nach der!= leave the money ask questions after

    UnderDog
  • peregrineperegrine MVP
    edited June 2013

    @vrijvlinder said:

    no wonder they did not leave a tip when I told that to a restaurant patron in my waitressing days when they were leaving without tipping and asked for directions to the bus station!

    if they asked for directions for the airport, that would have been even more humiliating. But at least they didn't ask for free side dishes after you served them.

    Monetary Donations will be appreciated if you use my plugins. Thanks in Advance.
    As a waiter gets a tip for a good meal, tips for successful solutions appreciated as well. Peregrine

    vrijvlinderUnderDogAdrian
  • peregrineperegrine MVP
    edited June 2013

    @phreak said:

    I've mentioned this more than once that the generousity can only come from a community that feels not opressed by the core team. So it's not a "community fault", it's an Open Source policy fault why developers have such a weak return of love and bucks.

    I don't feel oppressed, I feel free and grateful to the Vanilla Developers who were kind enough and generous enough to offer their code open-source. I feel more "oppressed" by the take and run crowd who see fail to see value in using something and at the same time not making any contributions either in time or money, to further development of added value of themes and plugins.

    maybe its time to close this thread too!

    Monetary Donations will be appreciated if you use my plugins. Thanks in Advance.
    As a waiter gets a tip for a good meal, tips for successful solutions appreciated as well. Peregrine

    UnderDogAdrian
  • phreakphreak VanillaSkins.com - #1 Themeshop for Vanilla ✭✭✭

    @peregrine: no, you don't understand. the reason of a OS community acts upon donation lies beneath what you think. see that it could work elsewhere, and this community doesn't even have a large scale as Vanilla has, it's mostly german for about 80% of the users of this OS tool. I've seen similar examples.

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  • AdrianAdrian Marketing Jedi Vanilla Staff
    edited June 2013

    Funny. I was away and didn't see all this activity on this plugin of mine. I feel so special. To be honest development stopped for me because of many issues. At the time, I was told the core team would release something similar, and I did not have the bandwidth to support this add-on. @peregrine has pointed out some of the other reasons for me not revisiting this. It looks like a core add-on was never released, so maybe it's time to revisit this add-on.

    On another note, I think the community has gotten much better/ stronger in last couple of years due to some great involvement from some key people. It has made releasing add-ons more enjoyable again. I still believe auto-update is a killer add-on which could make Vanilla adoption easier. I would love to work with the community to make this plugin work. Maybe it's time to relook at it again with fresh eyes. This is a add-on that will certainly require support from "the community", as I cannot do it alone. To make it easier, I have moved code to Github: https://github.com/adriansonline/Vanilla_AutoUpgrade

    In the end, I do add-ons for the love of the software, not for income. If that were the case I would never have released it. When I release something, it's because I am using it for my needs, and I thought it could help others too. Anyway, I think we have strayed far from topic... but I wanted to add my two cents as the original add-on creator :)

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  • @vrijvlinder said: peregrine said: yea phreak, verlassen das Geld und Fragen nach der! :)

    I got totally confused my questions was does it work because the posts are mostly 3 years old or has it been abandon? I'm with Bluehost for my hosting, why i say i am not capable is i'm still learning only for the last 6 months. I have donated to BIZ Directory for his help and help to install. Which i don't mind doing but many plugins don't for me i would say 40% for one reason or another, two yesterday alone. Maybe it's me not knowing how two alter code unless it's very simple. I wanted sso but to me I don't a clue how to install and make it work. I was just the ideas man my son used to do all the coding until he climbed into a bottle of 6.4% Chang beer 6 months ago and can't get out. So i was left with the baby and had to learn very quickly.

  • vrijvlindervrijvlinder Jester MVP
    edited June 2013

    @DenisS Yes german can be very confusing .... even for the germans ;O

    Maybe it's me not knowing how two alter code unless it's very simple.

    That is normally the case when you are learning, some people learn faster than others. You just need to focus on getting one plugin to work at a time , they all fail for similar reasons...mostly misconfigurations like with the gallery plugin.

    I was just the ideas man my son used to do all the coding until he climbed into a bottle of 6.4% Chang beer 6 months ago and can't get out.

    I take that to mean your son became an alcoholic? that totally sucks I hope he recovers soon. And for the baby's sake too.

    So i was left with the baby and had to learn very quickly.

    Don't give up just have more patience and try to follow instructions. I had no idea about all this when I got involved but have learned. This software is easy to learn that is the great thing about it.

    We will try to help as best we can but you also need to do some homework and google some stuff . I get results searching when I input the question I have as a parameter. even if it's the code itself or parts of it .

    UnderDog
  • whu606whu606 I'm not a SuperHero; I just like wearing tights... Moderator

    @DenisS

    With Bluehost, you have the option of updating Vanilla automatically.

    They've made it a bit harder to find, but if you can log in and get to your Control Panel:

    In the Mojo Marketplace list

    select One Click Installs

    Top right corner: click View My Installs

    You should see Vanilla Forums listed.

    If there is an updated version available it should give you an Upgrade link.

    Click that and it should do everything for you.

    hgtonightvrijvlinder
  • ok thanks whu606 I'll have a look,

  • ChiprangChiprang New
    edited July 2013

    @whu606 said: DenisS

    With Bluehost, you have the option of updating Vanilla automatically.

    They've made it a bit harder to find, but if you can log in and get to your Control Panel:

    In the Mojo Marketplace list

    select One Click Installs

    Top right corner: click View My Installs

    You should see Vanilla Forums listed.

    If there is an updated version available it should give you an Upgrade link.

    Click that and it should do everything for you.

    @whu606m Thanks. I also use Bluehost and it works. @DenisS, Click on the Advanced and then you will get a pop up where you have to select which version you need to install.

    However, when i tried to install BanApplicant Add-on (after upgrading it to Vanilla 2.0.18.4) I still get this message: BanApplicant is missing the following requirement(s): Vanilla 2.0.18.4. Could it be a cache problem?

  • whu606whu606 I'm not a SuperHero; I just like wearing tights... Moderator

    @Chiprang

    Check what version of Vanilla is showing in your config.php file.

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