Mini's Missing Again

LoOkOuT

Since the launch, he's missing all the action. Probably not gonna show untill minivanilli's all done!

blizeH

He's on holiday, back tomorrow I believe! :-)

But yeah, it's been rather busy around here lately hasn't it? Even I'm struggling to keep up with all of these threads, so it must be a nightmare for Mark and the other code pros!

Bergamot

Mark's gone too :D

Minisweeper

Hah, Hi guys, *just* walked through the door and picked up my mail and email and lussumo. Looks like you guys been having fun. Cant wait to catch up on a week of hyperactivity. I knew mark was gonna release the day i went away. Bitch.

Glad to see you.

Minisweeper

Hmmm... 8 pages of discussions. *cracks knuckles.

nathan

You can do it. Put on a pot of coffee or something...

I know you usually read everything, but are you really going to try and catch up on ALL the happenings here? INSANE!

Minisweeper

Yeah, I had planned to. Naively i thought it'd only be 5 pages or so (was 3.5 last time i went away for a week i believe) but I've got plenty of free time coming up... It might just take me a while longer than usual.

nathan

Good luck. Many of them are small anyway, just simple or repeat help requests and that type of thing.

Minisweeper

Right, It's 4am, 1 page down, 6.5 to go. If anyone dares post anything before i drag myself out of bed tomorrow morning to continue I'll....

*crawls upstairs.

c-unit

Why, that sounds like a challenge!

Toivo

minivanilli? are people willing to read large quantities of text on a mobile screen? is it worth the trouble as you dont have option to reply? what are the limits (A4 of infomation)? people text like crazy with SMS but I'm not sure that they are willing to read anything else than very personal messages on their mobile screens.

Minisweeper

Minivanilli is a theme based on the old o8 forums (I'm not sure if you'll have heard of them and you've almost undoubtedly never used them (your name doesnt ring a bell, anyway) but i loved them to bits) which mark made a while ago and i requested he update it to work with v1 as a return for my donation to his macbook (since this entire forum software clearly isnt enough! (he was gonna do it anyway, and i donated regardless)) In any case i'm still hanging tight, and it certainly wont stop me using this community. I have page 1 and 2 clear now. I'm off for lunch.

Toivo

so minivanilli DOESNT equal theme to use in your mobile phone? I thought the name had something to do with 'opera mini' The coin has other side too. I read my feeds on a 'full posts' mode. Vanilla discussion page has only headlines and search for all commets by date shows only three or four lines of each post. It would be nice to have <i>LargeVanilla</i> theme with full posts and <i>SmallVanilla</i> for small devices like your PDA or mobile. Or should these be named as FullPlateVanilla (c) and DietVanilla (c)?

bjrn

I've made a slight start creating a vanilla theme for handhelds, called Vanillin. However, I'm waiting for Opera for the Nintendo DS. My mobile phone can handle webpages, but does it very clunky, so I don't much feel like working on it for that one (and with the DS I can surf for free (using my home broadband connection), something I can't do with my mobile phone). I am planning on having a very scaled down theme, with much less data on the pages. I think it would need either a per-user theme switching extension (so people can switch from handheld theme to normal, depending on what they are using to view the forum), or some kind of sniffer extension to see what people are using, and switch the theme based on that.

Toivo

twttr is nice project too, you should take a look at it. oh, about sniffer. if I use webpage by handheld or mobile, will it show useragent? I had no idea. http://twttr.com/

rubio

bjrn, i'm really looking forward to your theme.

Toivo

any progress bjrn? or some 1\2 solution

bjrn

Not very much. With the holiday and the extreme heat, I haven't done much. And I'm going away for a few weeks to Sweden on Wednesday. I'm sorry if you got the impression I was working hard on getting a version out. I'm afraid I can't tell you much news; I've looked around the default theme a bit, and scaled it down, so I'm using HTML 4.01 Strict now, and have removed all optional tags I could (there are </li>s in Framework.Class.PageList.php, which I'm of course not touching). And at the moment, the discussions page is a third the size of the default theme (size as in download size).

The discussions list currently looks like this.


If people are interested perhaps I'll add some commented out things in the theme, so people can easily add more info to the discussions page if they want. But again, I probably won't touch it for the new few weeks.

neyo

bjrn, has anything more been done on this since then? I know it's a long time ago, but I am looking at ways to get my vanilla install working on mobile devices, like PSP, and I hoped your work might be a step towards achieving that.

bjrn

Oh, right, not very much, but with this competition going now, perhaps I should give it a go. I have found one mobile phone emulator, so I'll probably test it a bit with that, but I'm not sure I can get it working with PSP straight off (you never know what kind of crazy browser quirks these handhelds have).

neyo

Yeah i know what you mean. But building something fairly bare-bones, and the using javascript to detect user-agents could solve that issue. But yeah, if you get back into it, keep us updated?!

fysicsluvr

any news on vanillin and making vanilla work on mobile browsers?

EDIT:

By that I mean, does anyone want to make some news?

Wanderer

Yes, when the iPhone hits down-under I'll be mobile accessing Vanilla forums!

Does it not work properly now?

fysicsluvr

no I mean a theme for vanilla that works on mobile browsers (as opposed to mobile devices that can access normal websites.)

such as http://www.google.com/m/
It's "optimized" for mobile browsers.

Wanderer

Using the iPhone simulator application, this forum came up really well as did mine.

But I see what you mean now.

Would there be a manual re-direction or an automatic one?

fysicsluvr

It should be automatic, I found what changes in the user-agent for mobile browsers

wmlbrowser for firefox adds this to your browser's header:
HTTP_ACCEPT:text/vnd.wap.wml;q=0.6

that may be helpful?