Just Moved From PHPBB - How does moderation work in Vanilla 2
OK, I just migrated over a medium sized forum to Vanilla 2.
Everything except role permissions came over. I have set up normal users as per the roles and permissions video - seems OK. I really want to like it, but am completely and utterly confused by how the moderation is supposed to work.
What permissions should a moderator have? I have enabled the following permissions for a moderator (on top of normal member permissions)
Garden>Manage>Moderation
Conversations>Moderation>Manage
Default Category Permissions>Discussions>Close,Delete,Edit
Default Category Permissions>Comments>Delete,Edit
I have enabled the 'Flag' plugin and have the following permission set for that
Plugins>Flagging>Notify
However when a moderator logs in there seems to be no way for them to access the moderation tools.
The documentation seems very lacking in explaining this, and so
How is this supposed to work?
Conrad Winchester
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The flagging plugin requires Garden.Settings.Manage permissions to view flagged content. Moderators should now have access to a limited dashboard (link in the menu). I would also suggest enabling the Split/Merge plugin.
Does this solve your issue?
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@Conrad @hgtonight
Rather than Split/Merge, I would suggest Split/Merge FE for moderators. It has a bit more functionality.
@whu606 I had never heard of the Split/Merge FE plugin before. Thanks for the heads up
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I'm on 2.1b1. Are you sure it's a better idea to use Split/Merge FE instead of Split/Merge that comes with the core? That addon is from September 2011, and I could not see any benefit over normal Split/Merge.
@MasterOne
As the blurb for the FE plugin makes clear:
@whu606
Ok, convinced, just swapped Split/Merge for Split/Merge FE.
Now I am experiencing similar problems as the discussion starter, I think I have messed up the permission settings for my moderators. This is what it looks like now:
I wish there were detailed instructions for all permission settings, after all this is one major component of a forum.
I want my moderators to have full controll of all moderation related features in the forum, and access to all Dashboard >> Moderation features.
I have played around for hours now, but I really don't want to rely on trial and error.
It seems like only Garden >> Moderation >> Manage and Garden >> Users >> Approve together enable the necessary links in MeBox >> Account Options and allow access to the limited dashboard. Garden >> Settings >> View is not required after all for enabling access to the limited dashboard?
What permission setting is required for seeing the statistics in Dashboard >> Dashboard? Because with the two above mentioned settings a moderator only sees the following in the upper part of Dashboard >> Dashboard and it stays that way:
Any help setting the permission right is highly appreciated.
If this helps, here are my moderator perms for my 2.1 test
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@Tama
Thanks, but I really would like to have an explanation for the settings as written in my comment above.
Just seen in your screenshot: In my plain Vanilla 2.1b1 test installation there is another entry called Garden >> Curation >> Manage as well, but it's not in my final installation. What's that about?
As soon as you find out, can you document it on the Vanilla Wiki please. Just make a page 'Moderation' and then fill all the information with interesting pages
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Well, just discovered a problem with Split/Merge FE on 2.1b1: When I select a comment, and try to move it, I get just a small empty overlay box at the top of the comment besides the tick box:
No idea how to analyze this problem. Do you use or did you try Split/Merge FE on 2.1?
Without that comment move feature it does not have any advantage, which means I'll move back to standard Split/Merge if I can not find a solution.
be extremely careful with tools split/merge
make sure you forum has a back regime, you should do this as a matter of course.
secondly never never use javascript minifiers, they are flawed methodology especially done on the fly, and often break scripts, if you use a minify and a tool like that, you could end up doing something you really didn't intend.
grep is your friend.
@MasterOne
I hadn't noticed that.
Have you reported it on the thread for the Split FE plugin?
You mean split/merge being dangerous in general?
I can't imagine a forum without that functionality. No idea what a minifier is, will have to read up on that one. Daily backup will be done by the hoster, don't think I can add to that.
Will do so now.
Hopefully the creator, or someone knowledgeable, will be able to find a fix.